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Oscar:

Yeah, I use Process Explorer on a daily basis at work, thanks to Vista and its phantom Thumbs.db files it likes to create in every directory and not close the handles to, even if you never went into that directory. RAGE!

Drew:

you know what's ridiculous? when you're trying to close an unresponsive program but nothing is happening, task manager won't even come up, after a few seconds you get frustrated and decide to do a hard reboot and as soon as you hit the button the program instantly closes and windows acts like it just wants to log off and that it's sorry and it didn't know that you really wanted to close that program but everything is ok now, and then you're like it's too late for that now, enjoy your hard reboot as you hold the button for two more seconds without remorse until you hear the gratifying click of the hard drive's spinning coming to an end

acelxix:

Yeah, sometimes you can get the same effect by clicking the shut down button.  It'll bring up a list of programs waiting to shutdown, and as long as you have one that needs user feedback (like an unsaved doc) you have the option to cancel and can continue using the computer.  At that point though a lot of programs and services may have been shut down, so it's probably best to just restart anyways. 

No more satisfying hard drive click with SSDs. :(  Although I do hear it on my work laptop.  Slightly higher pitch when the hdd is winding down, maybe because it's smaller. :)

mwinter:

Yeah I like the sound of my linux box running for 6 months and then rebooting when I install a new kernel

acelxix:

Yeah, I like the sound of dragons being slayed in Skyrim, rope-a-dopes in SC2, and headshots in BF3 and Crysis 2.  Can you get them to run in linux?  Sure.  Is it a pain in the ass?  Yes.  Do you get the same performance?  doubtful.

mwinter:

Touche. I'm still waiting for the Steam Client for Linux, which was apparently just a false rumor :(

Drew:

so my attempt to revitalize my brother's old laptop for my use has come to a halt due to a stripped screw and a mystery board plug and wire that i can't figure out where it belongs, the wire is cleanly cut but i don't know how that could have happened since the only tools i've used is a screwdriver and hammer (yes hammer), working theory is that the stripped screw and mystery wire were placed by the 6 year old malaysian kid who built the computer in protest of working conditions....stupid kid

 

any recommendations for laptop purchasing? kind of sour on dell since both my brother's and my mother's had issues with holding or receiving power after a few years, optical drives also crapped out on both but i know they didn't actually make those

mwinter:

Yeah I had power issues on my work dell -- replaced the battery and everything worked fine again.. Wasn't all that expensive, but then again i didnt pay for it. 

Haven't bought a laptop of my own lately, but the HPs we have for work are decent.

acelxix:

I bought something similar to this for my grandparents, but the one I got was a floor model and was only $350 (may have been an i3, and they took $50 for being a floor model).  Considering their previous desktop was still running Windows 97 and still works, and they never complained, this one will probably last them for another decade.  I felt a little sad giving it to them because I know the laptop will never be used to it's full potential.  

Anyways, I'm not sure about longevity of laptop brands, but I know the screen died one of my toshiba M5's, and the hard drive died on the other (work laptops).  They issued us Dell Latitude 6410's now, and I'm satisfied with it.  14'' screen, i5 m540 2.67 Ghz cpu, 8gb ram, 500 gb hd, web cam, weights maybe 4-5 lbs, good keyboard, and battery life is ok.  Runs quiet.  Of course the retail value with those specs is over a grand (as googling indicates).

According to cnet, the HP Pavilion dv76b55dx has the longest battery life, but the research obviously doesn't include battery life over time.  My sister has a similar hp and hasn't had many problems with it.

Drew: was intrigued by nvidia's optimus technology, but found it cost prohibitive

narrowed it down:
hp 4530s
hp g6t upgraded to an i3
and maybe best buy will sell an asus x54c this is my first choice right now...
Drew:

going to pick up that asus, went on sale today sweet

Shawn:

You should double your budget and get a macbook air so you can hang out in coffee shops and look cool

Drew:

don't think i've forgotten about that share of ownership i have for your laptop

Shawn:

I didn't forget. If you ever need to borrow it let me know. I don't have it and don't know where it is and it won't boot. Otherwise though it's in good condition.

Drew:

might have to track it down, figure if i reduce it to a pile like the other laptop i might be able to combine them into something that works, i'll let you borrow it after that

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